Questions for God

As I said maybe 3 times already, words do not do it justice or describe it as it has to be experienced, I can clearly see the issue here you are comparing 'your ' "pandoras box " experience to 'mine', I experience it differently to you.

Well I think this is the problem. Everyone experiences it differently and because of this some think their experience is true and others are false. I'm not saying that the place I go to is 'the destination' as I believe others are claiming. Are you? Do you think that place is the true reality?

The same applies to your understanding of the concept of nothingness and mine "no awareness" to me is the concept of death and as a spiritual being I know this to be impossible.

In which case nothingness cannot exist.

You mention that I "imagine" I go somewhere and "other things are present" did I say this ? I think you are reading between the lines and in fact it's your imagination at work here !.

Happy Every Day
P

You are right I don't know if you imagine anything. I apologize.
I am genuinely wanting to know what is there? What you experience there? How it feels, what you remember when you come back. I assume it isn't a blackout.

I go deep within often. Two visits are never the same. Sometimes a powerful emotion will emerge and I note it so as to remember whilst staying immersed in the experience. I don't control any of it. I allow everything and sometimes it is troubled and then I will have a moment of clarity that brings me back to present consciousness. I do not remember how long I'm there and I don't remember what goes on inbetween the feeling troubled and the moment of clarity. That is a blank.

I've heard of others saying it's a feeling of connectedness, or bliss, or union with the divine, or a bright light and many many more different perspectives and experiences. Even the NDE and OBE are different. No two people go to the same place. This is why I question it.

Think of it as a cutting through the chi thing. The more you meditate on God, the less invisible he will become to you, through visions after intense meditation of your spiritual essence being meditatively in front of him, acknowledging your spiritual gift to him, in the way that you cleanse your body of demons.)

Jehebranoi wrote: Think of it as a cutting through the chi thing. The more you meditate on God, the less invisible he will become to you, through visions after intense meditation of your spiritual essence being meditatively in front of him, acknowledging your spiritual gift to him, in the way that you cleanse your body of demons.)

What do you mean by demons? Where do they come from?

maguru wrote:

As I said maybe 3 times already, words do not do it justice or describe it as it has to be experienced, I can clearly see the issue here you are comparing 'your ' "pandoras box " experience to 'mine', I experience it differently to you.

Well I think this is the problem. Everyone experiences it differently and because of this some think their experience is true and others are false. I'm not saying that the place I go to is 'the destination' as I believe others are claiming. Are you? Do you think that place is the true reality?

The same applies to your understanding of the concept of nothingness and mine "no awareness" to me is the concept of death and as a spiritual being I know this to be impossible.

In which case nothingness cannot exist.

You mention that I "imagine" I go somewhere and "other things are present" did I say this ? I think you are reading between the lines and in fact it's your imagination at work here !.

Happy Every Day
P

You are right I don't know if you imagine anything. I apologize.
I am genuinely wanting to know what is there? What you experience there? How it feels, what you remember when you come back. I assume it isn't a blackout.

I go deep within often. Two visits are never the same. Sometimes a powerful emotion will emerge and I note it so as to remember whilst staying immersed in the experience. I don't control any of it. I allow everything and sometimes it is troubled and then I will have a moment of clarity that brings me back to present consciousness. I do not remember how long I'm there and I don't remember what goes on inbetween the feeling troubled and the moment of clarity. That is a blank.

I've heard of others saying it's a feeling of connectedness, or bliss, or union with the divine, or a bright light and many many more different perspectives and experiences. Even the NDE and OBE are different. No two people go to the same place. This is why I question it.

There is always going to be difficulty explaining an experience with words ,as like you say different people can use a different word to describe a similar feeling or experience. I hold group workshops and find this is often the case, however when I say that I call it nothingness most people will agree with that as a description of the peace or connectedness or bliss and actually find it easier to return or reconnect to it when the name doesn't matter.
It looks to me like you are connecting to it already-but you seem to be still in your head remembering "where you go" as opposed to how you feel, and when your spirit self takes over you don't remember or go blank, could you call this blank 'nothingness'.

I don't "go" anywhere, What I do is reach out and open my mind to infinity and allow the endlessness of outside soak in or enter into me/my mind and at the same time I enter into the outside, becoming more then 'me' and leaving or letting go that 'me' for something other then 'me'. The feeling I get is that of connectedness with all and a deep deep sense of peace growing and flowing.

I mean in a spiritually meditative way, if you were to be cleansing yourself of all bad around you spiritually, then you wouldn't be letting any negative thoughts trap you, into thought, and by doing this with your focus enough on being a part of God in this way, he will become more viably visible.

There is always going to be difficulty explaining an experience with words ,as like you say different people can use a different word to describe a similar feeling or experience. I hold group workshops and find this is often the case, however when I say that I call it nothingness most people will agree with that as a description of the peace or connectedness or bliss and actually find it easier to return or reconnect to it when the name doesn't matter.
It looks to me like you are connecting to it already-but you seem to be still in your head remembering "where you go" as opposed to how you feel, and when your spirit self takes over you don't remember or go blank, could you call this blank 'nothingness'.

I believe there is some processing going on. Sometimes I could call it an expansion of my consciousness/awareness. And yes, I could call it my spirit self which I feel to be my whole self as one and no other. Just me.

I don't "go" anywhere, What I do is reach out and open my mind to infinity and allow the endlessness of outside soak in or enter into me/my mind and at the same time I enter into the outside, becoming more then 'me' and leaving or letting go that 'me' for something other then 'me'. The feeling I get is that of connectedness with all and a deep deep sense of peace growing and flowing.

Oh wow. that sounds amazing. I can understand this. What you are saying is similar to me in the transformative process. I think the difference maybe that I meditate on my negative emotions, or I allow negative emotions as I believe them to be an integral part of the transformative process. Like one side of the coin.